PS4 & Xbox stuck in a 1080 past – 4K Gaming is the future Now

If you’re serious about gaming graphics then it has to be said barking up the console tree isn’t the best practice once you can get over the fact that Xbox One and PS4 consoles both have limited exclusive titles to cling on to for dear life. The reality is most of the games released throughout the year are multi-format affairs and if you look at the most popular franchises such as Call of Duty, Assassin’s Creed etc. these are understandably not tied to just one console and often perform and look best on the PC. Owning a console is good for ease of use and of course playing games you can’t get elsewhere, but in terms of visuals then these offerings simply can’t compete with what the PC market provides, stating the somewhat obvious here. PS4 and the Xbox One are simply stuck in a 1080 past where 4K gaming is the future. Except, it’s here now.

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PC gaming goes through peaks and troughs in terms of popularity and whilst we’re on the cusp of something bigger and better with the advent of VR devices such as the Oculus Rift coming soon, the platform has shown to be the most crucial and beneficial to anyone interested in the advancement of visual elements. Sadly, given the rampant issue of piracy impacting sales, PC has become less of a lead platform as a result where consoles are now the main breadwinners for developers/publishers as evidenced by releases of major games being last on the platform – take the forthcoming GTA V as a perfect example and an abundance of free-to-play models setting up home.

Since the release of current gen consoles there’s been a lot of discussions surrounding 1080p resolutions and 60 frames per second gaming which up until last year weren’t remotely possible. The increased performance of the Xbox One and PS4 has led to greater expectations despite the fact PC gamers have been enjoying such benefits for quite some time and have since surpassed those. It has been perhaps a little disheartening to see current gen consoles struggling to meet this demand, more-so from Microsoft’s Xbox One, but still, with nothing to compare to those who solely invest in either current gen consoles don’t know any better and gladly accept the increased visual acuity compared to the PS3 and Xbox 360.

Going back to the original opening comment though, being serious about gaming visuals you’re most likely well in tune with what’s been happening with the PC market of late. We’ve had VR and high resolution graphics en mass, but until the end of last year these things have been out of reach for most other than the die-hard enthusiasts. Well it’s the start of a new year and whilst the cost is still incredibly high when compared to low priced consoles, the future of PC gaming is where it’s at for anyone who is serious about video game visuals or especially those arguing over the finer details of 1080p.

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4K (3840 x 2160) has been banded about quite a lot recently and if you look around you’ll find the cost of jumping in to be continually falling whether that’s the hardware required to experience it, or the devices used to display. Fairly cheaply, gamers can get into 4K gaming without breaking the bank, although that’s not to say you can’t go overboard to experience it at its best.

Some are going to argue against the benefits of 4K displays in the home where its effects are severely impaired by the distance the viewer is to the actual screen. However, for those who sit close to their displays the differences are incredible. We’re somewhat stoic compared to some when it comes to new technology, and rather than jump around like a loon in excitement, take things in our stride a bit more. That’s not to say we’re hard to please. Just a bit more laid back when it comes to being excited. We’ve experienced Oculus Rift and can see the potential there although do find it hard to believe the PS4’s Morpheus is going to provide much of a HD gaming experience considering the hardware requirements to get it running smoothly and at a decent resolution, but we digress.

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Now having seen 4K gaming up close and personal, there really is no contest and in many ways even sacrificing the holy grail of a minimum 60 frames per second is still worth it. 4K gaming is simply a step above, making any talk of 1080p a moot point. The extra details are phenomenal and make games released some years ago unleashed with a new a new skip in their proverbial visual strides. Sadly, it’s really hard to convey the difference to anyone viewing 4K content on a 1080p display. We can shout as much as we like about how much better it looks, but until you get to see it first hand one can be quite cynical – a bit like how we were pre our first 4K experience. Either way, 4K viewing isn’t so out of reach now for the masses, and as we move further into the year it’s likely more people will get to experience it in the flesh so to speak. There’s little content available for those who want to indulge themselves in movies and TV programming, but for gamers there’s a whole world to explore and going back through some older titles is well worth the lack of new content. As the title suggests, consoles really do have a long way to catch up and it’s likely we’ll have to wait for some time until they do. Until then, if you’re a graphics whore – putting it mildly – then you owe it to yourself to go 4K, because despite sounding somewhat cliche, once you do you’ll never look back.

Written by: Rob Cram

Rob Cram has hundreds of video game reviews, thousands of articles under his belt with years of experience in gaming and tech. He aims to remain fair and free from publisher/developer influence. With his extensive knowledge, feels his gaming opinions are valid and worth sharing. Agreement with his views are entirely optional. He might have a bias towards cyberpunk.

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  1. andy February 13, 2015 |

    Haha yes, Xbone is a 1080p machine complete with 90% of games released for the console so far BELOW that resolution ^_^
    Xbone is in fact stuck in the past with its ddr3 generation graphics card. Good luck at playing The Witcher 3 at 4K with the settings set to the lowest.

    • reallydude? February 13, 2015 |

      Before you make asinine comments about things you know nothing about you should maybe do a little research. DDR3 has nothing to do with graphics cards…. And I can guarantee that even the most powerful PCs are going to struggle to play The Witcher 3 at max settings in 4k. You would have to have AT LEAST a $1200 PC to do that.

      Also, CDPR stated that the game will have the same textures across the board (thus looking identical), so X1 won’t “have settings at the lowest.” PC will only have advantage in FPS and anti-aliasing.

      • durka durka February 13, 2015 |

        You are wrong actually the guy said “we optimize in way that there wont be much of a diffirence” and that was the art or story director NOT the developer if you think witcher 3 will look the same on pc as on ps4 you are an idiot.

        Also like i said dying light on ps4 runs UNDER the lowest pc settings as digital foundry confirmed. But hey ITS 1080P

        AHAHAHHAHAH

        lol peasants

        • DarthDiggler February 13, 2015 |

          @daka54:disqus

          How does Dying Light running better on your PC affect my enjoyment of Dying Light on PS4?

          Please explain this to me.

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            How does ANY of your comments having ANYTHING to do with the facts i am saying?

            They dont you just a keyboard warrior mad at the fact sony has a crappy trashbox and i am pwning you with facts

      • durka durka February 13, 2015 |

        You are wrong actually the guy said “we optimize in way that there wont
        be much of a diffirence” and that was the art or story director NOT the
        developer if you think witcher 3 will look the same on pc as on ps4 you
        are an idiot.

        Also like i said dying light on ps4 runs UNDER the lowest pc settings as digital foundry confirmed. But hey ITS 1080P

        AHAHAHHAHAH

        lol peasants.

          • durka durka February 13, 2015 |

            yes its called dikan45 and he is BUTTHURT

          • Dikan45 February 13, 2015 |

            Not as butthurt as dakan45, nice new name by the way! *snigger*

          • durka durka February 13, 2015 |

            Oh you mean the name which you are mocking by your troll acount eh kid?

          • Dikan45 February 13, 2015 |

            Still a sore subject obviously, not to worry I was bored with you 3 comments ago anyway! In a bit!!

          • durka durka February 13, 2015 |

            I like how you log out to uvpote your on comments and you vote your own comment,

            Whos the troll again?

            I hope robert bans you.

          • DarthDiggler February 13, 2015 |

            @dikan45:disqus
            @daka54:disqus

            I find you both to be two very unintelligent pricks. It’s a shame your parents failed you so.

          • Dikan45 February 13, 2015 |

            And? Don’t even know you mush!!

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            Inset the YOU KNOW NOTHING meme here, i mean god i have not seen anyone that is more clueless than you.

          • DarthDiggler February 13, 2015 |

            @dikan45:disqus

            You will likely get Dikan45 banned too. πŸ™‚ I am sure the name change didn’t do anything to upgrade your intelligence or maturity.

          • Dikan45 February 14, 2015 |

            Why would I get banned, this is the 1st and only name I’ve had, HE’S dakan45

    • durka durka February 13, 2015 |

      “Good luck at playing The Witcher 3 at 4K with the settings set to the lowest.”

      Interesting because THATS WHAT PS4 DOES.

      dying light on ps4 runs UNDER the lowest pc settings as digital foundry confirmed. But hey ITS 1080P

      AHAHAHHAHAH

      lol peasants

      • DarthDiggler February 13, 2015 |

        @daka54:disqus

        Seriously . . .

        HOW OLD ARE YOU?

        Your enthusiasm for PC gaming suggests you are a boy who has never laid down with a woman.

        lol virgin!

        • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

          Says a guy who STILL plays on a toybox and claims to be a programmer and maried.

          Face it, it is you who is the virgin kid with no life considering how much time you spend in n4g d!ck licking sony.

          Get a life nerd.

    • Neither is the POS4 with it’s Silky smooth 30FPS and downgrades :^)

      By the way. The Order ends with a QTE and a hackneyed “You and I are both the same” ending when one of your squad betrays you and turns into a lycan. You’re welcome :^)

      • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

        yup, pathetic gameplay, scripted cover based gears of war shooting, npcs waiting for you to open the door, QTES everywhere, mandatory slow mo moments and ammo boxes to fill up your ammo, 7-8 hour campaign and a crappy ending.

        2015 graphics 2008 gameplay.

        If this doesnt get a bad score i will be pissed.

        Greatness AWAITS and AWAITS and AWAITS.

        The sony gimps actually follow guisepe’s echochamber cult and thik anyone who doesnt lick sony with em is biased towards xbox and i am talking about the press here.

        Yes morons, every site outhere is bashing sony for no reason.

        It amazes me how people can be conditioned to think in such way without being consumers or without bias.

  2. Dikan45 February 13, 2015 |

    They’re stuck in a 30fps past, 4k isn’t even an affordable option and won’t be for a long time!!

    • durka durka February 13, 2015 |

      They also stuck in low setting dying light on ps4 runs under the lowest pc settings

      BOOORRING

      • DarthDiggler February 13, 2015 |

        @daka54:disqus
        @dikan45:disqus

        I see that you are impressed with your choice of platform.

        How about allowing us the console gamers be happy with our platforms?

        Some of us actually work for a living and do not reside on mommy’s couch all day. So the last thing we want to see when we get home is a PC. We like the turnkey nature of the console. We like the dedicated hardware and single spec that allows developers to actually fine tune to our hardware.

        We don’t care about your PC bells and whistles unless they can be replicated on our platform. πŸ™‚ Most of us are just fine with not having the absolute best graphics because we only had to pay about 10%-25% of the cost of the hardware that you purchased.

        Try this: Live and let live brah!

        • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

          You came in a 4k article about xbox to whine about ps4

          Logic you have none

          “Some of us actually work for a living and do not reside on mommy’s couch all day.”

          bahahahahha

          says the kid who has no life whatsoever and spents all of his time online damage controling sony.

          Look kid you have spammed me 14 times here and you talk about life?

          No screw off i am not giving you anything ill keep pwning you

          “We like the dedicated hardware and single spec that allows developers to actually fine tune to our hardware.”

          Oh yeah when is that optimization coming? Because so far games run HORRIBLY BAD, dying light is under the lowest pc settings and all games go under 30 fps quite often.

          “We don’t care about your PC bells and whistles unless they can be replicated on our platform. :”

          Again you came to a article talking about 4k do you see the irony.

          “We don’t care about your PC bells and whistles unless they can be replicated on our platform. :”

          Ok you are a class A moron.

          The 120$ 750 ti alone runs any game better than ps4 and AGAIN you come to a article about 4k and you say that you are fine with the subpar graphics you get.

          Are YOU DENSE? Do you even UNDERSTAND ENGLISH?

        • Dikan45 February 14, 2015 |

          I work hard to pay for my flat, PS4, XONE and PC, if you bothered to read comments properly before judging people you’d know that I spend more time on my consoles than I do on my PC. Don’t put me in the same category as that crank either, him and his ilk give PC owners a bad name

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            “his ilk give PC owners a bad name”

            Your ilk gives sony owners a bad name, wape idiot you are nothing but a fart in the internet licking off sony without the abiliy to have critical thinking

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            Go on get it all out! hahahaha

  3. DealForALiving February 13, 2015 |

    Well I love the idea of gaming running into 4K. We’ve hit a gaming ceiling like 2 years ago and the only real growth has been in mobile gaming lately. Console makers are going to have to carry their load and take us into 4K so that it ends up on next gen phones (especially since 4K phone screens exist today in 2015).

    • 4k on 800Euro phones and u want 4k on 350Euro consoles? If Sony or Microsoft introduced a 800Euro console and said it can play 4k people will just laugh at them for the price.

  4. BoyBigEyes February 13, 2015 |

    Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh……… do you know that you need a 4k television? It doesn’t matter if your PC are capable of 4K resolution if your screen are tiny…

    • durka durka February 13, 2015 |

      YO WUT MATE?

      Size has NOTHING to do with resolution even a 50 inch tv is useless without 4k support which can be found in “tiny” screens

      • BoyBigEyes February 13, 2015 |

        Wtf?!? Are you trying to troll?!? Because if you are, is biggest fail of troll i ever seen! lol

        • durka durka February 13, 2015 |

          I am not trolling anyone, i am telling you that having a HUGE screen that DOESNT do 4k doesnt make the image better.

          That “tiny” pc screen you reffering to DOES 4k

          Something that if you actually bothered to READ the article you would know.

          • DarthDiggler February 13, 2015 |

            @daka54:disqus

            Obviously you don’t understand English as much as you think. Why don’t you learn some grammar, proper punctuation and toss in a few upper case letters in for good measure. Then maybe we could properly understand your ramblings because we are speaking in a common tongue. πŸ™‚

            Otherwise stick to chatting with the other school boys during recess.

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            Obviously you have absolutly no life to think that you can lecture people in ANYTHING when you believe in “super secret sony sauce” nonsense, go sit back down with the xbots who think about the power of teh cloudz and leave intelligent discussions to people who have seen what hardware looks like rather pushing peasant sticks.

          • BoyBigEyes February 14, 2015 |

            I read the article and had too many mistakes on it! Or better, give to us the idea of graphics are resolution. I know that a 4k television it doesn’t make miracles! It needs a proper device capable of 4k resolution. But you know that a 4k device (or PC) doesn’t make the miracle of turn a 32 inch screen on a 110 inch screen?

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            Nothing makes miracles but 4k is far smoother as far as jaggies go.

          • BoyBigEyes February 14, 2015 |

            Oh, i get it now! You are talking about the quality of the screen… but once again, that is another thing. Despite Sony and Samsung as others, that come talking about of 4k as the same thing as OLED screens (for example), they are different things and not need each other. Is just marketing when they do.

      • DarthDiggler February 13, 2015 |

        @daka54:disqus

        The size of your TV depends largely on the room you are putting it in. If you are close to where the TV will sit you don’t want such a big TV that you have to turn your neck to see the whole image.

          • DarthDiggler February 13, 2015 |

            @daka54:disqus

            It’s in plain English or is that above your IQ level?

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            in plain stupidity is more like it not that i would expecnt anything more than no life virgin trolls like you pretending they undetrstand pc and 4k ,YET damage controling sony.

            i still laugh at your STUPID

            “Ps4 has some secret sony sauce in it”

            Well guess what moron? NO SECRET SAUCE its a weak console, bf hardline runs just like bf4 run back in 2013, no optimization or unlocking more power.

            This is the future for consoles, LIES and overhype when the actual thing is weak, get used to it kid.

          • deSSy2724 February 13, 2015 |

            He said it shortly but very well and clearly (and English is not my 1st language aka mother tongue).

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            I dont even remember what he said.

  5. Jason Mounce February 13, 2015 |

    4K is a current redundancy to me. Proclaiming 4K is the ‘now’ is, bold – but conceited and ignorant. It doesn’t speak on behalf of the global consensus of what is factually accurate, even if I were for example show off the % of what users on Steam use 4K vs 1080p…..who do you think is going to ‘win’ on ‘What is used more’ ?

    ‘Better resolution’ does not equal ‘It’s the best because it’s higher numbers’. It’s just not black and white, it’s especially whatever the persons’ hardware can handle, how many people have computers that can handle it, why it’s necessary, is it efficient both in cost and in energy and what is the global take at the consumer level. (probably some others that I missed)

    Whether or not 4K ‘Looks good’ isn’t a debate, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see this, so I don’t really see any critical thinking in this piece. 1080p is in the Past? Says you? 4K is now? Says you? There’s nothing inherently wrong with 1080p…..if you were to compare and contrast 480i/p of what we used to play games on, on CRT TV’s? Then ANYONE could argue with 1080p is a good Norm right now and that 480i/p is crap and ‘No one’ should use 480 anymore, 720p was the ‘last one’, 1080p is still the now whether you like it or not.

    4K is for the Minority and extremists, and also for those that need to stroke an ego of some kind. It still is however, a redundancy and has not reached the tipping point in the market. Thus, it’s still a gimmick, and is still for the future only. Give it 3-5 years THEN it won’t be a gimmick, but be a new norm.

      • DarthDiggler February 13, 2015 |

        @disqus_V8Wu1id65v:disqus

        Jason took the time to dispel some of the “opinions” presented as “facts” though.

        You have given a thumbs up.

        Effort: Needs Improvement

        • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

          He presented his “opinions” while me and robert speak from “Experiance”

          Ignorant morons stay ignorant

    • durka durka February 13, 2015 |

      Bigger and more complex maps ahve mor complex geometry, which means more jaggies, AA and higher resolutions kille the jaggies, 4k is the future and considering how powerfull pc hardawre are it is the future.

      • DarthDiggler February 13, 2015 |

        @daka54:disqus

        Also doesn’t the higher resolution take slightly longer to draw thus adding to the latency.

          • DarthDiggler February 13, 2015 |

            @daka54:disqus

            Not true.

            If you have any display it will take longer to “draw” a higher resolution than a lower one. The difference will be small more than likely, but there is still a difference.

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            Let me make it simple to you

            I am using 4k YOU are playing on your playstation.

            So dont tell ME what 4k does and what doesnt PEASANT.

            I am seeing how clear the image is in 4k you sit on your 50 inch tv looking at 900p games.

          • You Are Flat Out Wrong February 15, 2015 |

            You really don’t understand how HDMI and Monitors work, do you MisterPlaystationMedia

          • Dirkster_Dude February 13, 2015 |

            Wrong. The more pixels used means a higher refresh rate is required from the HDTV to properly display the image. No matter how great the PC hardware if your display can’t refresh the screen fast enough it means nothing.

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            FACEPALM

            Did you upvoted yourself because no one can be THIS stupid.

            YOU DONT NEED A HIGHER REFRESH RATE FOR 4K YOU MORON

            Infact most MONITORS suppport either 144hz or 4k, NOT both.

            ” HDTV”

            Back at the console logic… i was talkign about pc>console due to not having to worry about such crap.

            What planet you live in? I am explaining to you basic stuff here.

          • Dirkster_Dude February 14, 2015 |

            Your comment — “Did you upvoted yourself because no one can be THIS stupid.”
            *** Me — You can check to verify who upvoted the comment you don’t have to ask me. Maybe you should also check your spelling at the same time?

            Your comment — “Infact most MONITORS suppport either 144hz or 4k, NOT both.”
            *** Me — Simply not true and easily checked in any case. I have 2 HDTVs and both are 1080p with neither supporting the resolution or refresh rate.

            Your comment — “YOU DONT NEED A HIGHER REFRESH RATE FOR 4K YOU MORON”
            *** Me — You want to avoid screen tear and blurring not related to the video card then yes you do need it.

            Your comment — “i was talkign about pc>console due to not having to worry about such crap.”
            *** Me — Doesn’t have anything to do with a console just what the HDTV is capable of displaying NOT what the PC components are capable of because I would assume if you bought this HDTV you would have a beefy video card to go with it. Personally, I don’t have the money to spend on it.

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            The comment is a guest post

            Most monitors have either 4k or 144 fps if you want both you gonna have to bleed money.

            “I have 2 HDTVs and both are 1080p with neither supporting the resolution or refresh rate.”

            Exactly my point.

            “You want to avoid screen tear and blurring not related to the video card then yes you do need it.”

            vsync, gsync, where d oyou live?

            ” Doesn’t have anything to do with a console just what the HDTV is
            capable of displaying NOT what the PC components are capable of because I
            would assume if you bought this HDTV you would have a beefy video card
            to go with it. Personally, I don’t have the money to spend on it.”

            “I GOT 2 HDTVS”

            “I DONT HAVE THE MONEY FOR 4K ON PC”

            ??????????

            ??????

            I mean seriously?

          • Dirkster_Dude February 14, 2015 |

            What is clear to me is you either don’t have adequate understanding of the technology involved, the English language, some form of ADHD, or possibly a combination of all 3. My nephew was diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome and your responses show such signs. The responses could be for a variety of reasons, but I’m just going to assume not being dumb like you called me dumb is 1 of those reasons for failure to understand. Good luck and goodbye.

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            I is clear to me you are trolling because no one can be that freakign stupid.

            READ my first post and REALLIZE that you are the one who is clueless here moron.

            What an idiot, i guess thats what happens when you are PWND in an argument. You insult the other guy who is destroying you.

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            You’re destroying yourself, imploding haha, go rinse your face and cool down! haha

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            keep it up, you are only proving that you are a troll

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            If I wanted to troll I’d troll, any moron can troll(you’ve CLEARLY shown that lol)

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            So what is your point here retard? Becasue nothing of what you said here make any sense, you must have got caught up on your own bullshit.

          • You Are Flat Out Wrong February 15, 2015 |

            Is there a MisterPlaystationMedia blog going because it seems this thread is infested with people making things up about Sony’s low powered APU

          • Dirkster_Dude February 15, 2015 |

            I didn’t and you must be or “You are Flat Out Wrong” about that literally. πŸ™‚

          • You Are Flat Out Wrong February 15, 2015 |

            Obviously you did when you claimed higher refresh-rates are needed when the first 1080P TV’s were 30Hz and more than capable of displaying the POS4. Not like you need that extra 30FPS anyway :^)

          • Dirkster_Dude February 15, 2015 |

            Nope. The only thing I said is you want to properly display more pixels you need a higher refresh rate to make that happen. I was talking about displays that have nothing to do with a particular gaming platform such as a console or PC. The refresh rate requirements will vary depending on the display technology used: LED, LCD, CRT, Projection, etc.

          • Dirkster_Dude February 15, 2015 |

            You may be confusing HZ with FPS. The higher the hertz (HZ) means a higher refresh rate. Typically, if you have a 1080p (not “i”) HDTV 60hz is sufficient to display 30fps (frames per second). It can also matter the type of display such as LED, LCD, CRT, and the connector such as HDMI, DVI, component cables, etc. irrespective of the gaming platform.

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            exactly but apparently i am crazy and the peasant knows more about hardware than us.

    • DarthDiggler February 13, 2015 |

      @jasonmounce:disqus

      I don’t always agree with you Jason, but you are spot on here man. Kudos for a well thought out and reasonable response, but I am sure it will fall on deaf ears from the vast PC Caliphate.

      • Jason Mounce February 13, 2015 |

        Which is why I made reference too, to the Nvidia downsampling of 4K > 1080p, it gives for the most part whatever visual bonus you may see and grants it to 1080p-native monitor-users.

        4K enthusiasts or not, being hardcore 4K is pointless and a waste of money. When 4K becomes the norm and is pushed for a general consumer market and the price becomes consumer friendly, then it can be the norm, even so though, as I use my Computer monitor as both a Console monitor and PC gaming monitor, the Screens’ physical dimensions will never increase, it’s just ‘More pixels within the physical measurements’ – it’s also a redundancy mathematically. 4K is for a better Movie experience if I were to ever compliment it, even with that said, no TV channel will broadly support 4K for a long time without it being $$$ on your provider services likely – and movie support will be limited for quite a while, downloading and pirating 4K movies will also be massively stupid unless you got gigantic HDD’s everywhere in your house and free space and unlimited internet bandwidth.

    • miyamoto February 13, 2015 |

      4K gaming is useless if the developers can’t even make characters and object look lifelike in terms of animation, design and lighting and effects.

      What game’s developers need to focus today is believable sculpting, animation, movement physics, lighting, AI, volumetric effects, code optimization, that will look lifelike even on 720p resolution.

      4K is practical only if the average family is buying it. Give it a few more years and I am sure 4K will be the norm.

      • Jason Mounce February 13, 2015 |

        Developers need to focus on techniques and better features to make AI better, CPU and GPU optimization with games that can look as good as Skyrim (Modded, not vanilla) but still operate with great gameplay and fluid animation, bitmap/textures and so-on before the priority of resolution.

        Like, Batman Arkham Knight was shown w/ 1080p vs 4k and it’s just, literally in all ways a gimmick, it looks pretty, and 4K TV’s show nice clarity, but there’s nothing much else to it. There’s also Nvidia’s Dynamic Super Resolution / downsampling which makes 4K go to 1080p and keep majority of the benefits for those who literally DO want the ‘visual bonuses’ but with the same resolution we’re all comfortable with. This is what I’d say is the future. Drivers and Software that enable the ‘gimmicks’ and visual flare to become efficient for majority users with reduced costs. Not whether or not your hardware can push more pixels without overheating and keeping a steady framerate.

        All the rest, I agree with you course. Developers and gaming are still young when it comes to all the things we’ve yet to experience, I remember when Goldeneye on N64 looked life-like with visuals, resolution didn’t do that. We have to breach the uncanny valley with visual realism and 4K resolution won’t be a dialectical statement or feature that comes alongside.

    • YOUDIEMOFO February 14, 2015 |

      It is technology and it is going to move….. Whether or not certain people are ready to adopt/adapt to something is totally up to them (the consumer). Not one person can say that it is going to change.

      And to be honest yes better resolution does mean the best……, better. Hence why there are so many that can not run games at maxed settings in 4k. Drivers and API’s are going to get better (dx12) and are going to allow for much wider control regarding hardware.

      • Jason Mounce February 14, 2015 |

        It will move, I’m not disputing that. I’m merely saying of course that this article-OP is not that ‘one person’ course. Basically that’s all πŸ˜› Consumers are just not ready which is why I said it’s a gimmick currently, just as Blu-ray was once a gimmick, as is everything else that is prior to what Malcolm Gladwell calls the Tipping Point in this world we live in.

        Not many can run 4K, both in monitors that we don’t need to desert and get a brand spanking new one that supports 4K and then the computer specs to handle it whilst maximizing everything else. We’re quite a bit from that, it’d take a pretty serious rig to run a Modern game, say, Star Citizen – At MAX…..at 4K…..I don’t even want to think about the cost of such a hardcore omgwtfbbq rig….

        But yeah, that’s why I emphasized the 4K > 1080p feature Nvidia has, it’s stuff like that, that makes easing into ‘What is for the future’ a bit easier, a lubricant so to speak – because our wallets will become sore, dry, and plundered afterwards.

    • Failz February 14, 2015 |

      Makes me cry in laughter when fanboys like yourself brag so much about resolution yet when they realise that there poor little kid toys doesn’t output the best graphics they defend it like its a religion. Did you forget the XB1 vs PS4 debates that still happen to this very day? Yes resolution means everything to todays gamers which they still argue the differences between 900p and 1080p lol its a sad fact.
      1080p is 10 years old, 4k is next gen resolution, love it or hate it. Only those who don’t game on 4k will argue it means nothing when I can say the same with 1080p. Start convincing your parents to buy you a 4k TV or keep living in the past. Not only to you game with inferior resolution, you also game with black bars limiting your screen.. Poor kid.
      Now if 4k didn’t exist you will be claiming 1080p the next gen resolution which you have debated many times in the past. Well it isn’t, learn to deal with it. Technology improves and 4k is the next phase of gaming, PS4 and XB1 have a life span of at least 5 years while every year 4k TVs become even more popular. Yes I am afraid 4k gaming is going to be quite popular in the coming years while PS5 and XB2 wont be available anytime soon and I wouldn’t expect them to achieve 4k either.

      • Jason Mounce February 14, 2015 |

        wut….brag…..so much….about resolution…? I’m….Bragging?…..hwat….dangit bobby…?!

        My post literally above yours references to console fans/fanboys who dispute sub-resolutions…..so no, I clearly haven’t forgotten if my post references that and has been there for 7 hours. Whether ‘console kiddies’ debate it doesn’t apparently matter when it’s quite obvious that ‘PC fans’ have their own childish debates that are equally sad.

        The rest of your post I ain’t even bothering to read, it’s typical of your posts to be asinine where the gist of it is you go full-retard and then +1 your own comment due to how desperate you are…

        • Failz February 14, 2015 |

          The future awaits those who want it. 4k is next gen, not 1080p. Been using 1080p longer then you were born.

          • ImOnaDrugCalledSheen February 14, 2015 |

            Looks like this guy is still hanging around on the internet trolling Sony like the lifeless troll he is, here’s an idea for you Failz since you like talking about the future so much how about you actually get a life and therefore have a future instead of aimlessly trolling the internet all day every day, do something with your life, crawl out of mom and dads basement and make something of yourself cause honestly there’s a big world you’re missing out on out there while you’re busy toiling away being a troll. And if you simply cant help yourself then could you at least get some new material that game cover images is really old.

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            Says the lifeless troll who defends sony, HUR DUR SONY GAME DONT SUCK ITS JUST THAT ALL SITES ARE BIASED.

            HUR DUR UNCHARTED 4 WASNT DOWNGRADED DIGITAL FOUNDRY IS BIASED.

            Come on sony shills admit it you are pathetic.

          • You Are Flat Out Wrong February 15, 2015 |

            Poor baby shill rump roasted about the PC Gaming future. Cry more :^)

          • cvb February 14, 2015 |

            Don’t get out much I see.

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            upvoting your own comments i see

          • Gamez Rule February 14, 2015 |

            Some Sony TV’s like the X85B series have hardware 4K up-scaling which is a dedicated processor called X-Reality Pro. This compares the 1080p picture to a database of 4K colour pallets saved on the X-Reality Pro chip to make-up the best possible 4K image from 1080p.

            PS4 might not output beyond 1080p for games, but there’s nothing stopping people from playing games at 4k using PS4. So we now know that PS4 games can be up-scaled from 1080p 60Hz to 2160p 120Hz while using Sony’s X Reality Pro chip.

          • Failz February 14, 2015 |

            Both X1 and PS4 have upscalers that can reach 4k, but 4k gaming wont be available with current gen and even next gen. These consoles are 2 weak to achieve this without major sacrifices.

          • Gamez Rule February 15, 2015 |

            Use the TV to up-scale as the TV is better at doing the job thanks to the dedicated processor called X-Reality Pro. The TVs I showed allow gamers to play at UHD using PS4 and it looks great on the Sony TVs.

            We all know that PS4 cannot do native 4k at all but TVs allow up-scaling which is the next best thing to it.

          • Thad Vanity February 15, 2015 |

            Are you trying to sell TVs?

            You can’t pull image details or additional pixels out of thin air or your ass. Upscaling is a joke.

          • You Are Flat Out Wrong February 15, 2015 |

            Oh my god MisterTiduxMedia Over here genuinely believes it.

            Latter they will be claiming the 8GB GDDR5 is stacked. Incredible.

          • Gamez Rule February 15, 2015 |

            You can play games using PS4 at UHD resolutions ( just not native ) and it looks better at that res- than 1080p. Just look it up yourself☺

          • You Are Flat Out Wrong February 15, 2015 |

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh my god you think upscaling makes games look better you idiot

          • Gamez Rule February 15, 2015 |

            A 4×4 “pixel cluster” that’s the exact same size as a 1×1 pixel should not suffer any difference in image quality even when stretched.

            So in other words a single pixel does not suffer from degradation from stretching as it’s still 1 solid color. 4k is an evenly divisible from 1080p so you won’t get an unnatural stretch.

            What this all means is image quality should not suffer versus a comparable 1080p display of the same size. So when you have 1 pixel mapped squarely with 4 then 1080p renderings on a 4k screen looks very very good.

          • Gamez Rule February 15, 2015 |

            So you believe what I posted is incorrect?…Now I will die laughing if that’s the case.

            Truth is that people with the above Sony TVs have that have built in hardware dedicated processors for 4k up-scaling ) can in fact play PS4 games from 1080p to UHD without any degradation from the up-scaling taking place.

          • You Are Flat Out Wrong February 15, 2015 |

            Oh my god you genuinely believe upscaling works. You really are incredibly silly. But then that’s console peasant logic for you.

          • Gamez Rule February 15, 2015 |

            Ive been a PC gamer for many many years ( way before I owned consoles ) but what I above stated is correct. 1080p gaming on 4k Sony TVs ( shown above ) looks great. There is no quality lost as it’s virtually a straight pixel per pixel mapping. You would struggle to see any difference in full motion play anyway.

            I don’t know what your problem is about PS4 being able to up-scale via the TVs built in hardware dedicated processors to 4K, but 4k is evenly divisible from 1080p so you won’t get any unnatural stretch, so YES up-scaling works just fine using the TVs shown.

          • Thad Vanity February 15, 2015 |

            LMFAO.

            Yuuuup; Upscaling and Frame Interpolation are totally the future!

            Get. Grip.

          • Gamez Rule February 16, 2015 |

            Upscaling and Frame Interpolation will always be around so yes it’s pretty much going into the future

          • Thad Vanity February 16, 2015 |

            Wheels will always be around. Doesn’t mean they’re the future.

            Your remarkably over simplifying or don’t understand at all.

            It’s that simple. I’d explain but it’s a waste of energy.

            4k Gaming on consoles is not the now and won’t be for 9 more years.

            4k Gaming on PC is absolutely the now; regardless of if your hardware can run it.

          • Gamez Rule February 16, 2015 |

            Ok lets look at it this way.. IF 4k on PC was “absolutely the now; regardless of if your hardware can run it” then why is it that 99% of gamers are not using 4k OR unable to run at that high resolution?

            IF 4k was the “now” then that also means that 99% of PC gamers have also fallen behind the times and stayed with resolutions that consoles use nowadays ( but with better graphical options )?

          • Thad Vanity February 17, 2015 |

            Lets keep this simple:

            1. You don’t need a 4k monitor to enjoy the benefits of a 4k render resolution. SuperSampling.

            2. Most PC gamers could in fact run a variety of games at 4k quite easily (Incl. only gamers/PCs with discrete GPUs, not integrated).
            BF4? No probably not.
            Indie Titles though. Totally.

            But while the console market argues over 1080p or a stable frame-rate. PC gamers make the choice between a huge variety of graphical settings that affect visuals & performance in a number of ways; which ultimately manifests as PC Graphics or PC Frame Rate. PC gamers have a choice.

            Like you said though “most PC gamers must have 60fps remember that one”

          • Jecht_Sin February 14, 2015 |

            Look who’s talking.. Failz. The one always going on bragging about DX12, completely forgetting that its benefits are mostly for PC, and ignoring that AMD Mantle the same AMD itself said isn’t needed on console, performs even better than DX12 in some tests.

            Still the main problem with your crybox isn’t the resolution, are the frame rate dips and the.. TEARING. Cry me moar. lol

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            All i see here is YOU failing and the other sony gimps.

            You got NOTHING.

          • You Are Flat Out Wrong February 15, 2015 |

            And suddenly it never matters when it’s on PC. It’s funny how you keep yelling “BUT ON PC”.

            Yes. DX 12 will be a major improvement on PC as PC is being held back. Now consider PC is already significantly better than the consoles. Once DX 12 and GLNext drop, it will be an even bigger massacre.

            But you still have your 1080P right? With medium settings? And 30FPS? And no Texture filtering or Ambient Occlusion? :^)

          • Failz February 15, 2015 |

            You clearly havnt read anything from the DX12 articles. Low level API isn’t what makes DX12 great. Multithreading is where its at and the XB1 uses a multi ore CPU just like a PC/Laptop.

            Don’t argue with me just read the article.

            https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=it&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tmag.it%2F2015%2F02%2F11%2Finside-xbox-one-intervista-brad-wardell-e-chiarimenti-sulle-directx-12%2F&sandbox=1

            And since you cant read very well heres a picture to help your low IQ
            Now what does it say on the bottom line of that pic? Come on you can do it πŸ˜‰

          • You are flat out wrong February 15, 2015 |

            All about bringing console level APIs to PC. For the most part Xbone already does what DX12 is bringing to PC. Keep expecting miracles though. πŸ™‚

            Yeah, nice try. Get me something that isn’t a badly translated Xbox fanboy article and I might take it seriously. Keep upvoting yourself. πŸ™‚

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            look whos talking.

            So hows the optimization coming on ps4?

            2013 bf4 was 900p, 2015 hardline is 900p

            No optimization, nothing, squat NADA…and one game keeps flopping after the other and the sony fanboys listening to dualshills damage control articles and think that the gaming press hates sony.

            Lol the order is crap too.

            https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1736/1718/original.jpg

            https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1732/9645/original.jpg

          • Failz February 15, 2015 |

            So are you saying X1 is using multithreading right now? Something that hasnt been done before? Bravo your no different to Jecht. Better start reading the news instead of the headlines.

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            i dont know how low level xbox is or isnt, what i do now is that both consoles are closer than ever spec wise and it could perfom better.

            Dx12 will improve xbox, by how much? I dont know but this “wont change everything the fanboys use is rather stupid”

            If it didnt do anything they wouldnt use it.

          • Thad Vanity February 15, 2015 |

            Sorry…. Are you actually trying to say that the XBONE isn’t using Multithreading?

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            dying light under the lowest settings is better

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            oh yes because ps4 is soooo stable….unity run worse on ps4, sleeping dogs, thief, watchdogs all had drops big deal.

          • Jason Mounce February 14, 2015 |

            4K being ‘next gen’ is indeed an honest assessment. Remember, we’re in Current-Gen πŸ™‚ Next-gen is indeed 4-6 years away and that was the timeline I originally gave wherein I said, 4K resolution will have more of a grasp on the market, and current-gen right now is 1080p. Thanks for making an easy post to counter.

            Also, as for your random image, just for the hell of it. Unsure as to what an Anti-PS4, implicative image that ‘PS4 fanboys cry about games they don’t have’ – I’ve never seen such an event happen, personally. Nor do I even know what that has to do with the Resolution topic on PCs. Is that the subject area that you feel you’re the strongest at? Crying about fanboys or PS4 fanboys? Try to stay on subject, even if you have ADHD, stay with me here. It’s about resolution, not PS4 and games.

          • Failz February 14, 2015 |

            4k is current gen, 1080p is last gen, just because there are people who cant benefit from 4k doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. 1080p isn’t new for PC or Consoles. 360 and PS3 can do 1080p and so could most PCs 8 years ago. 4k is new and its available and its the next phase of gaming resolution.

          • Jason Mounce February 14, 2015 |

            Failz: “4k is next gen, not 1080p”

            Failz: “4k is current gen, 1080p is last gen”

            Whoosh! No wonder your name is Failz.

          • Failz February 15, 2015 |

            *facepalm* Next gen is current gen. The true next gen wont be availably until at least 2018+
            So ill dumb it down for you. Current gen resolution is 4k, previous gen is 1080p. Hope you understand.
            Figured a PS fanboy like yourself would understand this, oh well I didn’t think you would be sharp.

          • Jason Mounce February 15, 2015 |

            Next-gen is current gen? HAHAHA. Guess you never took all your English classes in High School, boy, you do realize that ‘Current’ means Now, contemporary, present-day. ‘Next’ is Future-tense, right? Cmon, keep up with me here…

            PS5 is ‘Next-gen’, Xbox 1080 is ‘Next-gen’, you could maybe argue that a software driver that gets a complete overhaul from 1.0 to 2.0 is ‘next-gen’ for it.

            You’re not dumbing anything down if all that you’ve always said has been dumbed down to suit the person who always types it, yourself. Don’t dumb things down even further than you already do. Current-gen resolution is clearly the majority-chosen resolution, 1080p, should I bring in the Steam statistics for you? πŸ™‚

            Oh aye, I’m a PS fanboy, for reasons unknown. Brilliant deduction, Watson, this is why You’re not an actual detective. Shhh, no more tears, only dreams now. πŸ™‚

          • Failz February 15, 2015 |

            So you still didn’t understand even after I dumbed it down for you.
            Ok ill dumb it down again for you but I can only dumb something down so much.
            Current Gen = 4k
            Next Gen = 8k+
            Previous Gen = 1080p

            Ok hopefully you understand it, if not then your beyond repair just like the other faithfuls.

          • Jason Mounce February 15, 2015 |

            Is it normal for you to tell people that they don’t understand anything when you don’t understand everything? πŸ˜›

          • You are flat out wrong February 15, 2015 |

            I think the little Xbot has finally broken. He’s not making any sense.

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            wait did YOU ever amde any sense?

          • Jason Mounce February 15, 2015 |

            I’d think he’d be a delusional PC fanboy with an identity crisis more than anything else. It’s whatever and whomever supports his presumed-troll antics of being Anti-Sony and anyone he ‘feels’ is affiliated with the opposition of his own alignment to stroke his small ego.

            Not as if people like him are hard to understand, it’s not as if it’s hard to see Beyond his mask.

          • You are flat out wrong February 15, 2015 |

            Yeah, all these psychos have a similar MO. I get a few blocking up my feed with shit and it’s pretty obvious they’re insecure Xbots hiding behind another platform.

      • That’s great but resolution doesn’t make a game good, a game that sucks will suck regardless of the resolution, maybe you’re just placing to much interest on one aspect of gaming in order to try and sound superior to everyone and pound your chest in the process, maybe you’re just that out of touch with reality.

        • Failz February 14, 2015 |

          How are those Xbox One Articles you keep downplaying DX12 and Cloud computing? Guess your waiting for the next big Xbox news. You must be bored arguing about stuff you have no idea about.

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            Might change my name to dika dorka!

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            Yours however is quite fine, you are a d!ck allright

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            Here come’s the other wrong ‘un!!

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            dignity? He has no life, all he does is spam me, you think he has dignity?

            QUICK MY OPINION IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR BRANDON I SHALL CANCEL MY INTERNET CONNECTION AND KILL MYSELF.

            Yeah no, how about he moves on instead.

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            Says the numpty who’s started arguments with numerous different people on this article alone, who’s replied to comments I made over 9 MONTHS AGO(some not even on gaming websites) telling me they’re not going anywhere and are going to keep SPAMMING ME forever, I haven’t replied to you in over 15 hours, you’ve replied to me over 30 TIMES! Now that’s dedication although I prefer to call it ‘BUTTHURT’! Pure desperado!! hahaha

          • Dikan45 February 16, 2015 |

            Exhausting work all that trolling clearly

          • Dikan45 February 20, 2015 |

            Grow up ffs!! hahahahahaha

          • durka durka February 22, 2015 |

            Says brandon who has no life other than attacking people online.

          • Dikan45 February 22, 2015 |

            BOO HOO she’s being bullied! BOO HOO

          • durka durka February 22, 2015 |

            Your real name is brandon and how do you know i am a girl?

          • Dikan45 February 22, 2015 |

            I can smell the perfume from here! hahaha Anyway I’ve no interest in replying to you anymore! IN A BIT

          • durka durka February 24, 2015 |

            sure thing pal, its not like everyone has figures out that you are a no life butthurt kid who gets pissed at people having diffirent opinions.

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            Dignity? As in replying to someone 50 times on 9 month old comments like your little buddy here? Is that this ‘dignity’ you speak of? haha Fact is you two are the reason why scum shouldn’t be allowed to breed, because you two are the outcome, then when you breed with whichever lowlife will have you you’ll breed some scum of your own, and on and on it goes. Why don’t you both do the right thing for once and go get the snip before it’s too late? Do what your parents should’ve done and break the chain!!

          • The Herald Of GabeN February 15, 2015 |

            Nice meltdown Brandon. Now go back to your buyers remorse over your APU Sh*tbricks :^)

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            Truth hurts

  6. durka durka February 13, 2015 |

    Yeah i laughed when guissepe nelva from dualshills said “but consoles can do 1080p now”

    AHAHAHHAH

    bf4 came out in 2013 and it run exactly the same way hardline runs now in 2015.

    Lets not even go into dying light running under the lowest ps settings on consoles

    Face it consoles are weak and you CANT do 1080p you downgrade graphics to do it.

    1080p is ancient history now with the 750 ti being 120$ and beating ps4 on any game, it is blatantly obvious pc is 4k as far as the future goes.

          • durka durka February 13, 2015 |

            Well it is YOU who replied to me saying BOOORRING

            So yeah YOU are the troll

          • DarthDiggler February 13, 2015 |

            @daka54:disqus

            man you got no life.

            Says the guy who is on the Internet to spread the Gospel of PC Gaming! πŸ™‚

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            Says the moronic troll who goes around sucking of sony and defending sony ON A PC/XBOX ARTICLE.

            Freaking idiot get a life and stop spamming me.

    • DarthDiggler February 13, 2015 |

      @daka54:disqus

      Seriously learn English and maybe you could understand the intelligent writing at DualShockers.

      The PS4 and XBONE both have 1080p games within their library. So it is 100% factual to say the PS4 and XBONE can do 1080p they have demonstrated this. This isn’t up for debate it’s just observing the facts.

      That doesn’t mean that ALL games on those platforms are 1080p. What resolutions the games render in is a function of how it is developed. Sony and MS aren’t going to force all developers to use 1080p.

      If a developer wants to do a game at 720p, more power to them it’s their decision on what kind of game they want to make.

      Your lack of intelligence disturbs me greatly. You wouldn’t know what critical thinking is if it came up and gave you a reach around. Your straw-man arguments are weak at best.

      • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

        “aybe you could understand the intelligent writing at DualShockers.”

        INTELLIGENT WRITING?

        DUALSHOCKERS

        PICK ONE

        You cant have both IDIOT

        All dualshockers does is post rumors and lies and end up been called wrong.

        Neofag has BANNED dualshockers because it is not a reliable source

        Perhaps if you spent a bit more time outside of duallshills and idiots like nelva that damage control the uncharted 4 downgrade while digital foundry does the actual analysis because their readers ARENT sonys peronsal cult, maybe then you actually reallzie that dualshockers is a echochamebr of sony fanboyinm and NOTHING of what it says has any resemblence on realltiy, i really like the delusion you sony fanboys have that the reason ps4 games get bad scorse and people diss the order is because they have something against sony and NOT because the games are bad.

        I mean seriously do you morons listen to yourselfs? You act like relegious fanatics

        “The PS4 and XBONE both have 1080p games within their library.”

        So does a 5 year old pc with mid-high settings its not actual HARD.

        “That doesn’t mean that ALL games on those platforms are 1080p. What
        resolutions the games render in is a function of how it is developed.”

        Clueless most 1080p games on xbone are old and most of the 1080p library of ps4 is indies

        ” Sony and MS aren’t going to force all developers to use 1080p.”

        Sony does actually.

        Still dying light low settings 1080p, pathetic

        “Your lack of intelligence disturbs me greatly.”

        HAHHAHHAH oh the irony is so freaking high, you are STUPID reallize that moron, you dont have a basic understanding of anything at ALL.

        “You wouldn’t know what critical thinking is”

        Says someone from dualshockers

        “Your straw-man arguments are weak at best.”

        Yes the fact that consoles BARELLY hit 1080p and thats with mid high settings and maybe just MAYBE mainting 30 fps is straw man arguments

        AND THAT COMES FROM SOMEONE WHO THINKS PS4 HAS SOME SECRET SAUCE IN IT!!

        You are a idiot, reallize that and stop talking.

  7. Ricoh123 February 13, 2015 |

    Who cares. 1080p is crystal clear.

    It’s not like the old days where there was a big jump to say 480p to 900p.

    1080p to 4k is less noticeable.

    I would rather have 1080p and higher fps than 4k.

  8. LordCancer Kain February 13, 2015 |

    empty proclamation. amd and nvidia have 3-5 years to make games playable at 4k 60 fps on midrange gpu’s or the ps5 and xbox nevermind will be 1080p all over. tv manufactures have the same amount of time to drive 4k tv prices down $500 range or it will be two console generations before 4k is adopted.

  9. miyamoto February 13, 2015 |

    4K gaming is useless if the developers can’t even make characters and object look lifelike in terms of animation, design and lighting and effects.

  10. angh February 13, 2015 |

    Gaming is just a ‘bit’ more than a screen resolution.

    • Dikan45 February 13, 2015 |

      Mine aren’t, they’re alive and well, get more use out of them both than I do my PC!

      • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

        Keep showing how stupid you are, you got a pc that does everything consoles do better than them, you use the potato boxes.

        • Dikan45 February 14, 2015 |

          Yeah I’m stupid enough to enjoy my hobby and be able to afford to game on console(4k upscaled) and pc(4k), just because you’re either too poor or too shallow(I’d say both) to don’t take that frustration out on the ones who can and do!! Have some fun ffs!!

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            Lets see if i got this, the article talks about 4k, you calling me poor

            ?????????

            Also its you who is attacking me, learn to live with other people in the world kid. You sony fanboys are not attacked on n4g for nothing, you are insanelly annoying.

          • Dikan45 February 14, 2015 |

            You came here specifically to troll sony and to wind people up, now you’re sobbing and playing the helpless victim when you got a reaction from people!! Get a grip!!

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            “You came here specifically to troll sony”

            IN A ARTICLE ABOUT 4K AND XBOX

            ARE YOU FREAKING STUPID?

            YOU CAME HERE TO PRAISE SONY

            MY FREAKING GOD

            ” now you’re sobbing and playing the helpless victim when you got a reaction from people!! Get a grip!!”

            YOU get a grip moron. You are the most disqusting sony shill in existance, EVERYTHING to you looks like an attack on sony, then again i am talking to someone who thinks that dualshockers aint full of sht, despite it was banned on neofag for posting lies and despite that Nelvas damage control articles have gotten you cultists so riddled up that think the reason sony games get subpar scores is becasue every site is biased towards ms and NOT because they suck

            Seriously go sign yourself in a mental asylum you are INSANE.

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            Go on get it all out, pure anger and desperation!! hahahaha

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            So you admit you are a troll, how nice, so tell me do you enjoy your trolling?

  11. Dirkster_Dude February 13, 2015 |

    4k being affordable and available for gaming is absolute nonsense. The large majority of people who own HDTVs will be 720p or 1080p with those TVs most likely purchased within the last 2-4 years. I think the cheapest 4k HDTV I have seen is around $1,700 (USD) and you probably wouldn’t want it for a variety of reasons. At that price it would almost certainly be useless for gaming.

      • Dirkster_Dude February 14, 2015 |

        I guess it depends on what you consider affordable. If $300-$500 range for a good 1080p monitor vs $1700 for a really cheap 4k capable monitor works for you great. That of course doesn’t even address the PC itself with the power of the PC components able to output the necessary pixels at an acceptable frame rate. Maybe you should go back to school or just have more disposable money.

        • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

          “That of course doesn’t even address the PC itself with the power of the
          PC components able to output the necessary pixels at an acceptable frame
          rate.”

          That comes from someone who palys on sub1080p with sub 30 fps

          “. Maybe you should go back to school or just have more disposable money.”

          Maybe you should listen to your insanity and take your own advice instead.

          • Dirkster_Dude February 14, 2015 |

            If they display can’t do 4k then it is irrelevant what PC technology you’re using. I would have thought that was obvious. Maybe a better understanding of the English language or being checked for a learning disorder will help you? Not trying to be mean like you were to me when you called me dumb, but my nephew has Asperger’s syndrome and your responses are similar what he would give through a lack of understanding of the conversation and/or technology. You might consider doing some research on the syndrome. It is a form of ADHD and/or Autism depending on the doctor or research you find.

          • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

            “Maybe a better understanding of the English language or being checked for a learning disorder will help you?”

            Kid read my post, i already said that in the first post you stupid autistic moron.

            ” Not trying to be mean like you were to me when you called me dumb,”

            IRONY

            “and your responses are similar what he would give through a lack of understanding of the conversation”

            IRONY

            “You might consider doing some research on the syndrome. It is a form of
            ADHD and/or Autism depending on the doctor or research you find.”

            IRONY

            BOOM over 9000, admit you are a troll or that you are a braindamaged monkey ,there is no other explanation of your grand stupidity. Autistic kids are smart actually and they dont have any problems with writing but hey, what would you know about that with your “internet” medical degree, you are just a pathetic troll

          • Dirkster_Dude February 15, 2015 |

            To bad you have no idea you only reinforce what I’m talking about. Also the need to call me dumb, moron and and so on only reinforces insecurities that such people have. For example, I don’t have any medical degree. My nephew was diagnosed by a doctor that specialized in it and he told me what to watch for so I can interact more successfully and help my nephew understand things other people take for granted. Except you didn’t make that connection did you? When I was talking about 4k displays you never picked up on the fact that if I don’t have a 4k capable display it doesn’t matter what PC or console hardware you have because you can’t make use of it anyway. That was implied in 3 replies, but you didn’t figure it out. Prior to realizing he had a real and treatable problem he acted just like you do in your posts. Your very first post called me a moron for no other reason that I could tell than I disagreed with you and never thought beyond to what would be an obvious conclusion for most people.

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            stop reading 3 lines in.

            You bore me. Please dont bother me anymore ill just ignore you.

          • durka durka February 16, 2015 |

            You should change your name to dickster dude.

          • Dirkster_Dude February 16, 2015 |

            Maybe. By the way, why aren’t you ignoring me?

          • Dirkster_Dude February 16, 2015 |

            Are you wanting the last word or something?

          • durka durka February 20, 2015 |

            are you? The order sucks btw

          • Dirkster_Dude February 20, 2015 |

            Of the reviews I have read have it seems the game is good = 15%, Okay-to-subpar = 50%, bad = 35%. So it certainly looks like it is starting to suck.

          • durka durka February 22, 2015 |

            Oh it sucks allright… greatness awaits and awaits and awaits…yeah this is why i dont have a ps4 yet. As for xbone? It only has sunset overdrive which SCREAMS that it will get a pc port.

  12. Dangerousjo 1985 February 13, 2015 |

    Past for who ?, maybe the PC crowd but definitely not for consoles xespecially since xbox one and PlayStation 4 are the first consoles to be able handle 1080p.. The PC up dating world has nothing to do with consoles..

  13. matt proulx February 13, 2015 |

    How many PCs can run current games 4k at 60fps? How many can run at 30fps?! Imagine a game made at 4k and not just upscaled… 4k is not here quite yet.

  14. YOUDIEMOFO February 14, 2015 |

    Well I’ll say that even my 4k DSR on my 1080p 120hz monitor is enough for me to get on the hype train…..

    Having the hardware to push said resolution should not be of concern for someone that is already contemplating playing their games at such resolution to begin with. 4k for gaming is going to blow the roofs off when it becomes available at 100+hz and more. As Nvidia DSR lets me play most all of my games at 4k with 100-120hz if I so please and it is a dream.

  15. Angel Duarte February 14, 2015 |

    This video is like watching reboot. Okay, you can make basic 3d models. Start adding things that make them look real, now. People get so caught up in adding more pixels, they forget what to do with said pixels.

  16. Axe99 February 14, 2015 |

    It’s unclear what the point of this article is. If it’s to announce ‘4K is here’, well, it’s been here for a while now ;). If it’s to announce ‘4K is widespread in PC gaming’, then it’s probably 4-5 years early – the majority of PCs used for gaming aren’t as powerful as the PS4 or XB1, and are a _long_ way off being 4K capable for anything more taxing than minesweeper. On the other hand, if it was to say “there’s a tiny fraction of PC gamers with expensive rigs that like talking down to everyone else, and we’re gaming in 4K right now”, then it does the job fine ;).

    • durka durka February 14, 2015 |

      ” majority of PCs used for gaming aren’t as powerful as the PS4 or XB1″

      You are comparing over 100 million pcs with few consoles, not to mention evne low end meeds ps4/xb1 right now, 4k is now.

      • Axe99 February 15, 2015 |

        Keep dreaming ;). I have 64 people on my Steam friends list, not one games in 4K, and plenty have PCs that can’t match the performance of current-gen consoles. There are, absolutely, groups of high-end PC users that don’t get out much amongst the broader PC gaming population and don’t appreciate the broader lay of the land, though, and this article is written from their perspective.

        • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

          Where did i say anything about 4k moron?

          I said that there are alot of pcs as powerfull as next gen, again 750 ti alone can match or supras ps4.

          • Axe99 February 15, 2015 |

            You said:

            “not to mention evne low end meeds ps4/xb1 right now, 4k is now.”

            A low end PC is one with an integrated GPU on the motherboard, or something with the equivalent of an Nvidia GT (rather than GTX) card. These PCs cannot match current gen (and some can’t match last gen). You’ll notice your reference to 4k in that sentence as well, in case you’d forgotten typing it!

            The 750Ti, on the other hand, can only match PS4 on some titles (for example, it can’t quite match it on Evolve – check out the Digital Foundry article), and any PC with a GTX card made in the last few years is mid-range at the very least.

          • durka durka February 16, 2015 |

            “The 750Ti, on the other hand, can only match PS4 on some titles”

            MOST and digital foundry said evolve is medium on consoles.

            big deal overall 4k is now if not now then a year.

          • Axe99 February 16, 2015 |

            That’s not what you said. What you said was:

            “again 750 ti alone can match or supras ps4”

            Granted, I assumed you meant surpass, you perhaps meant surprise and I misinterpreted. Given you can’t recollect (or accurately quote) what you have written, I don’t think there’s an awful lot of point continuing this conversation. I’m a little confused what you’re doing on a gaming message board, from your behaviour I suspect your skills would better suit a career in politics ;).

            Oh, and DF said Evolve was PC’s high setting on consoles, with a few very high features, but with reduced reflections in water. Again, your attention to detail would put a career politician’s to shame ;).

            As for 4K, I have no doubt it’s a big deal in enthusiast PC gaming circles. My point was that gaming (and even PC gaming) is much broader than this, and that the article only reflects a narrow group of PC gamers, rather than PC gamers more broadly.

          • durka durka February 16, 2015 |

            Instead of talking to me about politics, id reccomend you do some researh and be able to understand basic things and infromation, until then, the only politician here is you since you fail to understand the concept nor have the intelligence and skills to even understand your own argument.

  17. LarZen February 14, 2015 |

    4K gaming is the future. But it’s not now. 1-2 years 4K gaming hopefully is something that is interesting.

  18. Res is just one aspect of a game, it does not make a game good, you can have a great game at 1080 and a terrible one at 4k. This is nothing more then PC elitists fluffing themselves, you guys enjoy.

    • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

      yes resolution and free mp are nothing either, might as well buy a xbox one then.

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            So mad he posted twice!! hahaha

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            keep giving me evidence.

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            If you can’t take it(which you CLEARLY can’t haha) don’t give it!! There’s a life lesson for you!!

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            The life lesson is what exactly? That sony gimps are BUTTHURT insecure little tards that cant take the fact someone can dissagree with their opinion or dare criticize something that sony does as consumer and their pathetic vocally NO LIFE virgin mob that goes around the internet attacking people who dont have the same opinion as them, will bully everyone out of the internet unless they agree with them?

            Yes that is a life lesson and why i have to make sure your pathetic cancerous to gaming kind dissapears.

            You are not gonna push me around, but i will get off the internet just like derp.

    • Shame there are no games on the PS4 then, bucko.

      And even then they would be 900P. 30FPS. Medium settings. Missing features. The usual :^)

  19. Jecht_Sin February 14, 2015 |

    I don’t care about 4K. If to go fully 4K (not just stretching) the developers will have to spend twice the time or more with the obvious costs to make the much more detailed textures, forget about it. Not to mention that 1080p is already close to the human eyes limit. Using small-medium displays it’s hard to notice the difference after a relatively short distance. Unless one sticks the nose to the monitor, sure. Like many PC gamers do.

    • Gamez Rule February 14, 2015 |

      Or just up-scale gaming from PS4 to UHD using a Sony TV like the 55-inch KD-55X9005B. Or the cheaper Sony TV called KD-49X8500B.

  20. Gamingfan February 14, 2015 |

    PC spec whores killing gaming. Evolve needs all that DLC to sell just to profit. Imagine if all games were built from the ground up using 4K. The gaming crash is coming thanks to you knobs.

  21. Convergence87 February 14, 2015 |

    What a load of bollocks even most pc gamers aren’t even hitting anything over 1080p(according to the steam hardware survey)

      • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

        Steam survery is over 100 milion, so your argument is HUR DUR CRAPPY LAPTOP PLAYS LOL DOESNT HIT 1080P…PC GAMERS ARE WEAK”

        Nice logic there idiot.

        • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

          And again, your posts REEK of anger and desperation, it’s very entertaining. You’re kind of like a court jester! hahaha

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            Desperation? The fact you are trying to compare EVERY PC USED FOR GAMING with consoles and say HUR DUR PCS USED FOR GAMING GREATLY OUTNUMBER CONSOLES BUT HUR DUR THOSE CRAPPY LAPTOPS PLAYING LOL ARENT AS POWERFULL AS PS4/XBO SO PC ISNT MASTER RACE…Is utterly pathetic.

            Once again 750 ti run bf4 better than consoles. It is 2015, no optimization nothing squat, ps4 and xbone still run hardline in the same settings while LOW END hardware continues to dominate consoles

            Consoles are pathetic.

            https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1736/1718/original.jpg

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            I don’t even read your long ass posts so your soapbox is wasted on me!!

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            Thats ok ill just keep taking picts for disquss support on cyberbuiling so tell me hows the plan of bullying me off the internet working out for you dipshit?

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            oh poor you! Maybe I’ll do the same with all your insults!! See who gets banned 1st

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            You are not going to achieve anything kid.

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            ………And a partridge in a pear tree!

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            thanks for that too keep spaming me

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            you’re arguing with and insulting about 5 different people on this article alone, if anyone’s spamming/trolling IT’S YOU and if anyone’s going to get banned IT’S YOU !! Carry on digging your own grave and you’ll soon be gone! haha

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            “you’ll soon be gone! haha”

            Gone from where moron?

            Do you think i am gonna let you to kick me off the internet? Or do you think robert is gonna block me instead of trolls like you?

            Pathetic.

            The fact you are a impersonator and i had to change my acount name proves my point

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            Hahaha, I KNEW you were dakan45 and I knew I could get you to admit it, soo easily manipulated! haha You thought changing your name and stopping posting disgusting perverted things to kids could fool people but you just can’t help yourself and you’re back to your old ways, a troll just can’t help trolling! I’m not breaking any rules, if I was I’d be gone and as you know (because you reported me), I’m not going anywhere! haha Keep it up!!

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            “Hahaha, I KNEW you were dakan45”

            So lets see if i got this, you go around attacking people in general?

            Also no i am not dakan45, i googled your name and i saw you attacking that person, then i noticed how you go to this page and check the entire page for posts of me to spam me, so i decided to trick you.

            “soo easily manipulated! haha”

            I know right?

            I practicly walked all over you.

            ” You thought changing your name and stopping posting disgusting perverted things to kids”

            When did that happen?

            Oh wait that was dakan 45

            ” I’m not breaking any rules,”

            Nor am i, but if you think you gonna bully me off the internet you got that wrong kid.

            “I’m not going anywhere!”

            Neither am i so you can quit spamming me, or ill keep spam you back.

          • Dikan45 February 15, 2015 |

            I actually feel bad for you now because you obviously have some serious issues, spamming comments from 9 months ago and googling someone is the work of a messed up individual, you’re a bunny boiler ffs!! haha I don’t even think you realize what you’re doing is just plain weird!! I’ve had my fun with you so you can put the jester costume away and jog on now! IN A BIT!!

          • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

            “I actually feel bad for you now because you obviously have some serious
            issues, searching for and spamming comments”

            LOOK WHO IS TALKING

            YOU ARE DOING THAT TO ME LONG BEFORE I POSTED ON THIS ARTICLE

            Not to mention on this very article

            Let me make it clear to you moron YOU WILL NOT bully me off the internet

            ACCEPT my opinon SHUT THE FUCK UP and move on with your life.

            INSTEAD of spamming every comment i make.

            That simple.

            “! haha I don’t even think you realize what you’re doing is just plain weird!! I”

            Says the person who does the same thing

            I reported you to disquss so long ago and they did nothing, i am not leaving you are not leaving, so you either accept that i have a diffirent opinion or you can keep attacking me forever, i wont stop either.

    • durka durka February 15, 2015 |

      Steam survery is over 100 milion, so your argument is HUR DUR CRAPPY LAPTOP PLAYS LOL DOESNT HIT 1080P…PC GAMERS ARE WEAK”

      Nice logic there idiot

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